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THE DETROIT RED WINGS HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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gaimeguy
Re: THE DETROIT RED WINGS HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP!!!!!!!!!!
or maybe they will turn into the Boston Celtics of the NHL! ALL HAIL RVD AND DUCKY! "We are the Knights who say 'NI!!!!' "~Wario<i></i>
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TempMatt
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I'm SO glad the Red Wings won the Cup....they've been "my" team forevah! <i></i>
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Tanthalasis
Re: THE DETROIT RED WINGS HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP!!!!!!!!!!
The RedWings shouldn't be called a hockey team. They have two or three "good" players and the rest are a buncha retarded goons that should have been kicked out of the NHL YEARS ago...<
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DEVILRAYS
Re: THE DETROIT RED WINGS HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP!!!!!!!!!!
I sense bitterness on Tanis' part...<
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>Let's see here: Yzerman, Fedorov, Hull, Shanahan, Lidstrom, Robitaille. And that's just for starters. No goons there. The only players RESEMBLING goons are Chelios and maybe McCarty, and they are certainly less offensive than some players, such as, oh, Claude Lemieux, whom Hockeytown still has not forgiven for the cheap shot on Kris Draper in '96.<
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>Whoever said they had no respect for goalies has my buy-in as well; it appears Hasek just used the Red Wings to win the Cup. He ought to have his name taken off of it. I hope Curtis Joseph stays around a little longer (and for those who say the Wings are buying anoter great backstop, I point to the leafs and throw out one name: Ed Belfour. Besides, both the Wings and Leafs have backups who are definitely not ready to play every day.) <B>God bless America, land that I love; stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam; God bless America, my home sweet home; God bless America, my home sweet home.</B><
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><B>Detroit Red Wings 2002 Stanley Cup Championship - 1st round: Wings 4, Vancouver 2. - 2nd round: Wings 4, St. Louis 1. - Conference Finals: Wings 4, Colorado 3. - Stanley Cup Finals: Wings 4, Carolina 1.</B><i></i>
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>Let's see here: Yzerman, Fedorov, Hull, Shanahan, Lidstrom, Robitaille. And that's just for starters. No goons there. The only players RESEMBLING goons are Chelios and maybe McCarty, and they are certainly less offensive than some players, such as, oh, Claude Lemieux, whom Hockeytown still has not forgiven for the cheap shot on Kris Draper in '96.<
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>Whoever said they had no respect for goalies has my buy-in as well; it appears Hasek just used the Red Wings to win the Cup. He ought to have his name taken off of it. I hope Curtis Joseph stays around a little longer (and for those who say the Wings are buying anoter great backstop, I point to the leafs and throw out one name: Ed Belfour. Besides, both the Wings and Leafs have backups who are definitely not ready to play every day.) <B>God bless America, land that I love; stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam; God bless America, my home sweet home; God bless America, my home sweet home.</B><
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><B>Detroit Red Wings 2002 Stanley Cup Championship - 1st round: Wings 4, Vancouver 2. - 2nd round: Wings 4, St. Louis 1. - Conference Finals: Wings 4, Colorado 3. - Stanley Cup Finals: Wings 4, Carolina 1.</B><i></i>
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Tanthalasis
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Scuze?<
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>Chelios alone has racked up more penalty minutes than half the rest of the NHL combined, and McCarty is no better.<
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>I have Chelios' hockey card (to which I burnt not too long ago) which stated that in the 1993-1994 season Chelios already had more than 1500 penalty minutes.<
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>And simply look at the way he plays. x:<
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>As for the players:<
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>Yzerman: Only player on the Red Wings I would consider calling a hockey player. Any person who plays with a busted up knee deserves some credit.<
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>Fedorov: He was good... about a decade ago.<
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>Hull: Diver. 'Nuff said.<
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>Shanahan: Almost as bad as Chelios and McCarty, and nerely as bad a diver as Hull.... maybe worse.<
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>Lidstrom: Some good points, some bad.<
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>Robitaille: Don't know enough about him to say.<
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>As for Cujo leaving Toronto, I know hate him soly for the fact that he went to Detriot. Him leaving borderlines on Treason in my "Holy Book of Hockey Stuff" and definatly is abadonment. I know alot of other Toronto fans that feel the same way. Don't be surprised if you see Cujos knees whacked from him the first game he plays with a Red Wings jersey on.<
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>As for Hasek? He sucked to begin with and probably was the leagues biggest diver. I'm not sad to see him go, and I also believe that he shouldn't be on the cup.<
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>There.... that's my rant....<
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>Chelios alone has racked up more penalty minutes than half the rest of the NHL combined, and McCarty is no better.<
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>I have Chelios' hockey card (to which I burnt not too long ago) which stated that in the 1993-1994 season Chelios already had more than 1500 penalty minutes.<
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>And simply look at the way he plays. x:<
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>As for the players:<
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>Yzerman: Only player on the Red Wings I would consider calling a hockey player. Any person who plays with a busted up knee deserves some credit.<
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>Fedorov: He was good... about a decade ago.<
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>Hull: Diver. 'Nuff said.<
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>Shanahan: Almost as bad as Chelios and McCarty, and nerely as bad a diver as Hull.... maybe worse.<
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>Lidstrom: Some good points, some bad.<
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>Robitaille: Don't know enough about him to say.<
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>As for Cujo leaving Toronto, I know hate him soly for the fact that he went to Detriot. Him leaving borderlines on Treason in my "Holy Book of Hockey Stuff" and definatly is abadonment. I know alot of other Toronto fans that feel the same way. Don't be surprised if you see Cujos knees whacked from him the first game he plays with a Red Wings jersey on.<
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>As for Hasek? He sucked to begin with and probably was the leagues biggest diver. I'm not sad to see him go, and I also believe that he shouldn't be on the cup.<
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>There.... that's my rant....<
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DEVILRAYS
Re: THE DETROIT RED WINGS HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP!!!!!!!!!!
Chelios has his problems, and of course he has a history of being considerably dirtier than the rest of his team, but that does not sour the entire Red Wings lineup. If it does, then please proceed to trash Butcher for the fact that he roots for a team with Bryan Marchment on it. Mind you, Bryan Marchment is at least as much of a thug as Chelios, and Chelios at least does something once in a while rather than just rack up penalty minutes. I will also serve as a McCarty apologist and state that the Wings really didn't have any problems with him playing cheaply in 2002. He certainly didn't land any cheap shots a la Kyle McLaren or Daniel Alfredsson (anyone who claims that either of those hits were clean will be flamed mercilessly.)<
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>Yzerman probably has more heart than 99% of the rest of the NHL. He had to use his stick as a crutch every time he got knocked down, and yet it didn't stop him.<
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>Fedorov isn't really Fedorov anymore, but I certainly am not complaining about him.<
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>I didn't see a lot of Hull diving in the playoffs either, but if the stories I hear about him from the past are true (that he was selfish and wanted to be THE guy and not just A guy) then he had come a long way by the time he won it with the Stars. The Blues were Hull's team at the time. The Stars were never Hull's team. The Red Wings CERTAINLY were not Hull's team.<
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>Only someone trying to nitpick at the Red Wings is going to label Shanahan a thug. Hard hitter does not equate to thug. When Todd Bertuzzi was terrorizing the Red Wings, I never once claimed he was playing dirty, though it did look like he was getting away with a bit much. Players were obviously getting away with more in the playoffs; the refs let them play. It's not just Shanahan or the Red Wings; it's the other 15 playoff teams as well. (Except the Flyers, because no one remembers them from this past year's playoffs.)<
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>I find Lidstrom almost too good to be true. If the Red Wings had a line of five Lidstroms, or even two Lidstroms on defense and three other guys, the rest of the league would have a hell of a time catching up to the Wings, not that they haven't already. Lidstrom doesn't just beat teams with his defense; he does it with his shooting as well. With defense being so upfront in today's game, it's a
eath of fresh air to see a defenseive scorer.<
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>I didn't know a whole lot about Robitaille either before the season, but suffice it to say, he's a decent player who played on a lot of hard-luck teams. Particularly the Kings. Nothing negative here, no spilled-out defense of Robitaille either.<
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>Cujo leaving Toronto is really no big deal for the Leafs if Belfour does OK. That's a bit of an "if", though, knowing how erratic Belfour can be. It was good to see the Wings pick up a veteran as well, since Legace is still a few years away from being the everyday goalie.<
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>And I say negative things about Hasek for the SOLE REASON that he came to Detroit, won the Cup, and left. All in the span of one year. Ray Bourque wasn't a whole lot better in this regard, departing after one Cup with Colorado (feel-good story of 2001 my ass. He was one of the minor reasons I was rooting against the Avs in 2001, with the major ones being plainly obvious.) I don't disrespect Hasek's career; he carried the Sa
es on his back and made them competitive. Without him in 1999, they never would have gone to the Stanley Cup finals and likely would have finished dead last in both their division and their conference. And that's the conference with the Lightning in it. Patrick Roy never carried a team entirely on his back; the teams he won with had talent. The Sa
es were mediocre at best. That's the argument I use to say that Hasek was better than Roy, but none of it matters anyway since neither one holds a candle to Terry Sawchuk anyway.<
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>I hope to see the Wings playing the Leafs in the Finals next year, and if the Leafs don't go from the East, then the Habs or Penguins should. <B>God bless America, land that I love; stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam; God bless America, my home sweet home; God bless America, my home sweet home.</B><
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>Yzerman probably has more heart than 99% of the rest of the NHL. He had to use his stick as a crutch every time he got knocked down, and yet it didn't stop him.<
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>Fedorov isn't really Fedorov anymore, but I certainly am not complaining about him.<
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>I didn't see a lot of Hull diving in the playoffs either, but if the stories I hear about him from the past are true (that he was selfish and wanted to be THE guy and not just A guy) then he had come a long way by the time he won it with the Stars. The Blues were Hull's team at the time. The Stars were never Hull's team. The Red Wings CERTAINLY were not Hull's team.<
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>Only someone trying to nitpick at the Red Wings is going to label Shanahan a thug. Hard hitter does not equate to thug. When Todd Bertuzzi was terrorizing the Red Wings, I never once claimed he was playing dirty, though it did look like he was getting away with a bit much. Players were obviously getting away with more in the playoffs; the refs let them play. It's not just Shanahan or the Red Wings; it's the other 15 playoff teams as well. (Except the Flyers, because no one remembers them from this past year's playoffs.)<
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>I find Lidstrom almost too good to be true. If the Red Wings had a line of five Lidstroms, or even two Lidstroms on defense and three other guys, the rest of the league would have a hell of a time catching up to the Wings, not that they haven't already. Lidstrom doesn't just beat teams with his defense; he does it with his shooting as well. With defense being so upfront in today's game, it's a
eath of fresh air to see a defenseive scorer.<
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>I didn't know a whole lot about Robitaille either before the season, but suffice it to say, he's a decent player who played on a lot of hard-luck teams. Particularly the Kings. Nothing negative here, no spilled-out defense of Robitaille either.<
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>Cujo leaving Toronto is really no big deal for the Leafs if Belfour does OK. That's a bit of an "if", though, knowing how erratic Belfour can be. It was good to see the Wings pick up a veteran as well, since Legace is still a few years away from being the everyday goalie.<
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>And I say negative things about Hasek for the SOLE REASON that he came to Detroit, won the Cup, and left. All in the span of one year. Ray Bourque wasn't a whole lot better in this regard, departing after one Cup with Colorado (feel-good story of 2001 my ass. He was one of the minor reasons I was rooting against the Avs in 2001, with the major ones being plainly obvious.) I don't disrespect Hasek's career; he carried the Sa
es on his back and made them competitive. Without him in 1999, they never would have gone to the Stanley Cup finals and likely would have finished dead last in both their division and their conference. And that's the conference with the Lightning in it. Patrick Roy never carried a team entirely on his back; the teams he won with had talent. The Sa
es were mediocre at best. That's the argument I use to say that Hasek was better than Roy, but none of it matters anyway since neither one holds a candle to Terry Sawchuk anyway.<
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>I hope to see the Wings playing the Leafs in the Finals next year, and if the Leafs don't go from the East, then the Habs or Penguins should. <B>God bless America, land that I love; stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam; God bless America, my home sweet home; God bless America, my home sweet home.</B><
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><B>Detroit Red Wings 2002 Stanley Cup Championship - 1st round: Wings 4, Vancouver 2. - 2nd round: Wings 4, St. Louis 1. - Conference Finals: Wings 4, Colorado 3. - Stanley Cup Finals: Wings 4, Carolina 1.</B><i></i>
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Nakor BlueRider
Re: THE DETROIT RED WINGS HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP!!!!!!!!!!
I am rather irritated that CuJo wouldn't stay in Calgary... Given that team a fair chance at the playoffs this year. I guess he's just going where the money is. The original goalie statement you mentioned above, DRays, would have been mine if I'm not mistaken. I remember saying that none of the goalies really earned any respect from me, with the exception of Jose Theodore.<
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>Additions <
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>Philippe Boucher D Kings Free agency <
>Ron Tugnutt G Blue Jackets Trade <
>David Gosselin RW Predators Trade <
>Bill Guerin RW Bruins Free agency <
>Sami Helenius D Stars Re-signed <
>Aaron Downey RW Blackhawks Free agency <
>Scott Young RW Blues Free agency <
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>Player Pos. New team Departed via <
>Ed Belfour G Predators Trade <
>Brad Lukowich D Lightning Trade <
>Cameron Mann RW Predators Trade <
>Randy McKay RW Canadiens Free Agency <i>Time passes, people move...<
>Like a river's flow, it never ends...<
>A childish mind will turn to noble ambition...<
>Young love will become deep affection...<
>The clear water's surface reflects growth...<
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>In memorium of the Wild Wolf Society<i></i>
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>Seems like the Stars want a lot of trading action right now, they've got a number of moves going on.<
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>Additions <
>Player Pos. Old team Acquired via <
>Philippe Boucher D Kings Free agency <
>Ron Tugnutt G Blue Jackets Trade <
>David Gosselin RW Predators Trade <
>Bill Guerin RW Bruins Free agency <
>Sami Helenius D Stars Re-signed <
>Aaron Downey RW Blackhawks Free agency <
>Scott Young RW Blues Free agency <
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>Subtractions <
>Player Pos. New team Departed via <
>Ed Belfour G Predators Trade <
>Brad Lukowich D Lightning Trade <
>Cameron Mann RW Predators Trade <
>Randy McKay RW Canadiens Free Agency <i>Time passes, people move...<
>Like a river's flow, it never ends...<
>A childish mind will turn to noble ambition...<
>Young love will become deep affection...<
>The clear water's surface reflects growth...<
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>In memorium of the Wild Wolf Society<i></i>
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DEVILRAYS
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I thought it was you who said that, Nakor. I hope Theodore doesn't go sour in Montreal, and I wish Joseph would make up his mind whether he's happy to be in Detroit or sad to leave Toronto. He can't have it both ways.<
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>Hasek wasn't even that cool; he never even got in a fight with Roy like the REAL Red Wings goalies did. Maybe Joseph will have a bit more guts...it might take someone like him to put that pretty boy Patrick Roy in his place. It won't matter if CuJo retires after one Cup, though...unless he already won one, of which I am not aware.<
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>CuJo would have given Calgary a fair chance, sure, but Detroit's a sure thing in the winning department. They are the closest thing to an All-Star team anyone has put together in the NHL in I don't know how long - at least since the Oilers in their heyday. I just hope the Wings don't turn into some evil empire and start trying to rob other teams blind, like I fear the Yankees have been doing. I just want to see them sign the guys they need to win, not to destroy the rest of the league. After all, as much fun as it is to see the Wings steamroll sorry teams out East, someone has to win it every now and then. (On the other hand, seeing them turn the Colorado Avalanche into the Washington Generals of the NHL would be a hell of a lot of fun.)<
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>However, it's not like there's any shortage of talent in the NHL, and somebody is bound to be able to compete with them. Even the seemingly lowly 8-seed Canucks gave them a run for their money, and sometimes, that's all it takes. (I did NOT need the heart attack Colorado gave the Wings, though.)<
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>Besides, if there's a team that's guilty of piling on the free agents this offseason, it isn't going to be the Red Wings; it's going to be the perennial high-priced early exit team, the New York Rangers. That's one thing I give the Wings credit for; they have a
ain. <B>God bless America, land that I love; stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam; God bless America, my home sweet home; God bless America, my home sweet home.</B><
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>Hasek wasn't even that cool; he never even got in a fight with Roy like the REAL Red Wings goalies did. Maybe Joseph will have a bit more guts...it might take someone like him to put that pretty boy Patrick Roy in his place. It won't matter if CuJo retires after one Cup, though...unless he already won one, of which I am not aware.<
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>CuJo would have given Calgary a fair chance, sure, but Detroit's a sure thing in the winning department. They are the closest thing to an All-Star team anyone has put together in the NHL in I don't know how long - at least since the Oilers in their heyday. I just hope the Wings don't turn into some evil empire and start trying to rob other teams blind, like I fear the Yankees have been doing. I just want to see them sign the guys they need to win, not to destroy the rest of the league. After all, as much fun as it is to see the Wings steamroll sorry teams out East, someone has to win it every now and then. (On the other hand, seeing them turn the Colorado Avalanche into the Washington Generals of the NHL would be a hell of a lot of fun.)<
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>However, it's not like there's any shortage of talent in the NHL, and somebody is bound to be able to compete with them. Even the seemingly lowly 8-seed Canucks gave them a run for their money, and sometimes, that's all it takes. (I did NOT need the heart attack Colorado gave the Wings, though.)<
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>Besides, if there's a team that's guilty of piling on the free agents this offseason, it isn't going to be the Red Wings; it's going to be the perennial high-priced early exit team, the New York Rangers. That's one thing I give the Wings credit for; they have a
ain. <B>God bless America, land that I love; stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam; God bless America, my home sweet home; God bless America, my home sweet home.</B><
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Nakor BlueRider
Re: THE DETROIT RED WINGS HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP!!!!!!!!!!
<b><i>Quote:</i></b> the perennial high-priced early exit team, the New York Rangers<
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>*snicker* One of the teachers in my old school is a Rangers fan. It's fun reminding him how long it's been since they've been in the Playoffs. <i>Time passes, people move...<
>Like a river's flow, it never ends...<
>A childish mind will turn to noble ambition...<
>Young love will become deep affection...<
>The clear water's surface reflects growth...<
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>In memorium of the Wild Wolf Society<i></i>
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>*snicker* One of the teachers in my old school is a Rangers fan. It's fun reminding him how long it's been since they've been in the Playoffs. <i>Time passes, people move...<
>Like a river's flow, it never ends...<
>A childish mind will turn to noble ambition...<
>Young love will become deep affection...<
>The clear water's surface reflects growth...<
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>In memorium of the Wild Wolf Society<i></i>