STANLEY CUP FINALS

[Nakor BlueRider]

I was NOT watching, at it is entirely because of the dinner and dance. When they announced the score though, I almost chucked my food back up... There's no way Colorado should have played that bad, even if they were going to lose. Reminiscent of Montreal and Vernon (again, BCHL). I stand by my opinion that no team deserves to lose by that much. Not even the Thrashers.<
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>It's interesting to look at Carolina's path to the cup. They have basically nothing special to say about themselves other than being division champions, going into the cup. That, of course, means diddly squat in their division. The first team they beat is the defending Eastern Conference champions. The second victim is the team with the most Stanley Cups in history. The third team was the highest goal-scoring East Conference team. They've been the underdog every time so I don't think you can even think like that any more.<
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>HERE you can see a write-up by ESPN describing some of how Carolina feels as the underdogs-- and apparently they like it!<
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>I was unable to find anything on ESPN related to Detroit's thoughts in the series, only Detroit's thoughts about the Colorado wipe-out, which is irrelevant now anyway.<
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>So umm... I guess it all adds up to this. I can only make one prediction.<
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>This is going to be the most screwed up Stanley Cup Final I've ever seen. Ever. <i></i>

[DEVILRAYS]

I was a little shocked that the game ended 7-0 as well...it's definitely weird when a hockey team plays the "other" best team in the league in Game 7 of the conference finals and scores more goals than the NFL team in their city scored points per game the previous season (just an exaggeration, of course.)<
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>On the other hand, picture this: In the '95-'96 season, Patrick Roy was with the Canadiens, playing host to the Red Wings. The Red Wings shellacked the Habs 11-1 and Roy demanded a trade, and they send him to Colorado. Roy spends the next six-plus years terrorizing the Red Wings, and now they face off for all the marbles in one game, with the winner having the fast track to the Stanley Cup. And what happens? The Red Wings do the exact same thing they did to Roy in '96. I half expect Roy to demand a trade at some point today (ought to send him to the Sa
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>I picked against Carolina in every round this playoffs, and in every round, they won. Granted, I am picking against them again. However, I picked in favor of the Red Wings each round as well, and of course i picked in their favor again. If the Hurricanes pull off the upset, I don't know...the 'Canes earned 91 points in the worst division in hockey and somehow beat three really good teams. But they did it with home-ice advantage to fall back on. (Not that they needed it.)<
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>The last time the Wings got to the finals against a clearly overmatched team, that was the Capitals in '98, and they won in four straight. The time before that when they played an overmatched opponent, however, it was New Jersey in '95, and the Devils knocked them out in four straight (somehow.) So with regard to that, I really don't know. <B>God bless America, land that I love; stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam; God bless America, my home sweet home; God bless America, my home sweet home.</B><
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><B>Detroit Red Wings Quest for the Cup - 1st round: Wings 4, Vancouver 2. - 2nd round: Wings 4, St. Louis 1. - Conference Finals: Wings 4, Colorado 3.</B><i></i>

[Nakor BlueRider]

See last line in my previous post.<
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>I can only hope that the series is good, whoever wins it. <i></i>

[Tanthalasis]

*shrugs*<
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>Don't know, don't care....<
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>When I heard that Colorado lost 7-0, I just shrugged it off...<
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>The second Toronto was out, my reason for watching hockey (namly the Canadian teams) went with them....<
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[King Butcher]

I take offense! I just have a lot of respect for the Avs - you won't see me cheering on any other team like that <i></i>

[DEVILRAYS]

Objection: If you're jumping on the bandwagon of the team that beat the Sharks, well...that's just wrong. You didn't see me rooting for the Kings to win the Cup last year...(well, OK, I DID want to see them crush the Avs, but still...) You don't see Nakor and Tanis pulling for the Red Wings just because they offed the Canucks (though I could use any allies I can get here.) Go back to taunting Wario about the Stars missing the playoffs or something productive like that. It's futile rooting for the Best Team Money can Rent, as I call the Avs, backstopped by the biggest crybaby ever to play net (how do you suppose he ended up in Colorado? You don't see goalies demanding trades every time they have a bad night...)<
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>Well, that's all I have to say. That, and I AM GETTING REALLY FUCKING BORED WAITING FOR THE SERIES TO START! <B>God bless America, land that I love; stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam; God bless America, my home sweet home; God bless America, my home sweet home.</B><
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><B>Detroit Red Wings Quest for the Cup - 1st round: Wings 4, Vancouver 2. - 2nd round: Wings 4, St. Louis 1. - Conference Finals: Wings 4, Colorado 3.</B><i></i>

[King Butcher]

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[Tanthalasis]

*points out the fact that most of that rant was true*<
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>Think WAY back to when Roy was playing in Toronto...<
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>He had a bad night.... more like series... and we whined and moaned his way to Colorado...<
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[DEVILRAYS]

Toronto? It was Montreal that he played for when he demanded a trade to Colorado. And all because they wouldn't take him out of a game where he was getting shellacked. When that happens, most players just hold press conferences to blow off steam rather than demand trades. Imagine if Roy demands a trade now... <B>God bless America, land that I love; stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam; God bless America, my home sweet home; God bless America, my home sweet home.</B><
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><B>Detroit Red Wings Quest for the Cup - 1st round: Wings 4, Vancouver 2. - 2nd round: Wings 4, St. Louis 1. - Conference Finals: Wings 4, Colorado 3.</B><i></i>

[Nakor BlueRider]

He would lose the last shred of respect I had for him.<
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>There are very few goalies I really respect... Most are either mediocre, or have something about them that annoys me. Theodore is one of the ones that deserves some respect this season. Without him, Montreal wouldn't have stood a chance in hell of making it to the playoffs, and he isn't as self important as many, many goalies are. I guess it's rather easy to become self important when you are in the one position a team cannot be without... <i></i>

[Tanthalasis]

I usually have no respect for goalies...<
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>now PLAYERS On the other hand, generally create ALOT of respect from me...<
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>People like Ohlund... and I'm not saying that just because he plays for Vancouver... Ohlund will look at a scoreboard when they're down 3-2, with 0:30 seconds left on the clock in the third and say, "BAH! Stop worrying! Well just get one more goal, take it to OT, and win it then! So cheer up!"<
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[NOAImawario]

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[Nakor BlueRider]

Overtime is Carolina's biggest advantage in this series... They're 7 for 8 now. The Wings better keep that in mind and try to win by the end of the 3rd. I don't know if it's the attitude they take, or the effort they put in, or if they just don't get tired or what. But Carolina obviously has some advantage in their overtime... <i></i>

[DEVILRAYS]

fook off Wario. The Wings can't crack overtime, and I don't know why - they have guys who can score. It's overtime and overtime alone that's killing the Wings - that's 4 of 7 losses in this playoff that are in OT. And only one win in 12 that's in OT (Game 3 in Colorado.)<
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>It's also weird that they are 0-4 at home in OT - another mystery. Being on the road didn't bother Vancouver, Colorado (especially) and now Carolina.<
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>This may be a series that the Wings have to get warmed up a bit before they can take. <B>God bless America, land that I love; stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above. From the mountains, to the prairies, to the oceans white with foam; God bless America, my home sweet home; God bless America, my home sweet home.</B><
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><B>Detroit Red Wings Quest for the Cup - 1st round: Wings 4, Vancouver 2. - 2nd round: Wings 4, St. Louis 1. - Conference Finals: Wings 4, Colorado 3.</B><i></i>

[Nakor BlueRider]

Well, as I saw it, Carolina desperately needed a game 1 to secure a spot in this series. If they lost, game 2 would be an even bigger game yet. Detroit winning both games would have ensured them the win.<
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>So that game gave Carolina the foot they needed, as well as informing the spectators that they won't be walked over (like the fans of every team before them made the mistake of thinking). But it's not exactly a lead either... We shall see. I'm not going to even think about predicting anything. I'll just keep looking over what happens. <i></i>